You're talking a lot around it, the noise around the answer sort of thing.
This is where the problem is. We're losing people from those trades. In terms of your comment on trying to link apprentices who are halfway through their program and that job ends and now they're looking for another experience, that's a really neat program. I can see that being of benefit, but there has to be somebody out there, whether it's the federal government, one of the councils, or whatever, that is trying to identify for example the four main reasons that people aren't completing their apprenticeship.