Yes, I have a lot to say about that.
First, in talking about Europe, there is less of a social stigma being in a trade in Europe than there is in Canada. A lot of individuals in Europe are indentured to one company for the whole apprenticeship period. That's a huge difference compared to here, where a person is transient and goes from employer to employer.
In terms of how we convince our young people to get into the trades, there is an example here in Ottawa where the Ottawa Construction Association has constructed a tour where graduating students and also grade 10 students are taken from the classroom and shown around certain shops right in town to encourage them to think that of it as a potential avenue for them. It's a question of bringing the kids—I shouldn't say “kids” as some of them are young adults—to the sites and showing them that this is what we build. That's very important.
There was something that Monsieur Lapointe brought up. It's not only a trade, like being an electrician or a plumber or a carpenter. You can become a superintendent, and you can become an owner. When you are an owner, you open a business. You hire people. You pay taxes. The whole world goes around.