For a moment place yourself in a legislator's position at the federal level. What can the federal government do when provinces set up barriers, not only to curriculum alternatives that have come full circle, I would suggest? We are sitting here as federal legislators. We could perhaps incent industry to do their part, but our hands are tied. I see it as a larger cultural shift that's happened over time, perhaps in a generation, which has created the pickle we're in now and which has to be shifted back.
What do you think the federal government could do to change that cultural orientation that has happened back to perhaps where it should be? As we heard with Germany, it's been in their culture since the 1600s. Being in the trades is actually looked upon as a badge of honour. They don't say, “Stay away from the trades, son, because it's better to get a liberal arts degree or an undergraduate degree”, which is, I think, the culture of my generation. We did that to our kids. Perhaps we still do it, and we need to shift it back. What can we do?