Great. That would make sense. The other deterrent we heard about was if an apprentice has to go back to school, the delay in getting EI benefits.
The last point is about the pay scale. Are you seeing that as any kind of a detriment? Now you can get work in a lot of places in the west. I've got a son who's making $30 an hour as a labourer right now. He's using his arts degree to shovel snow in Fort McMurray. Then there are guys who are going back to take trades, and they start off at $18 an hour in the first year. Do you hear any reflection on the pay scale?