But now their jobs would be watching the fences. I'd better put that right in the transcript. I'm only kidding.
Who's doing the training really well? In other studies we've undertaken, we've heard about Bombardier and some of the bigger corporations. It seems to be that the mom-and-pop businesses, the small and medium-sized enterprises, are the ones that aren't able to invest in the training to keep a highly skilled workforce. Are there companies out there that are doing it well that we can use as an example and that are able to train and keep their workforce into their later years?