My next question has to do with the targeted initiative for older workers, and you mentioned it. We've actually had a couple of other witnesses who have spoken very highly of the success of the targeted initiative for older workers, but you seem to be a little bit more skeptical. The evidence we've had so far is that it has been a highly successful program. It has re-integrated a very high percentage of workers who were displaced because they were in a one-industry town and the plant shut down. Everybody has to retrain.
I just want to be clear. You're a supporter. CLC supports the targeted initiative for older workers. You think it is a program that works. Perhaps it can be improved. No one will argue that programs can't be looked at and improved. But you would say it has been a successful program?