I'd like to thank all the witnesses.
It's very heartening to hear the success story of your particular program, and some of the great work that is happening across the country. Things are certainly not where they need to be, but we're hopefully moving in a good direction.
One of the goals of this study is to look at the programs that are working, the models, and the challenges. We've heard about SPF and ASETS. I'm going to ask all the witnesses who care to comment, what are the good and bad in those types of program funding?
I'll start with Ms. Cayen, and then head to the video conference.
Could you speak about the good and the bad about both models, please?