Yes, we absolutely work very closely with post-secondary institutions. We contract a variety of the institutions. The Saskatchewan Institute of Applied Science and Technology, SIAST, is our largest training provider. So they're a service provider for us.
But I mentioned earlier in my submission that one prerequisite to being an apprentice is that you have a job. That seems to be the issue. In Saskatchewan we're running a 4% unemployment rate. Economists would suggest that's very close to full employment. We have 2,200 unemployed first nations people on reserve between the ages of 18 and 24. For that particular population the issue seems to be in providing the essential skills that would be necessary to allow them to secure that first job, which would then allow them to undertake an apprenticeship through to journeyperson.
Some of those essential skills, in my discussions with employers, relate to challenges around transportation: not having a driver's licence to be able to drive to work, not having adequate child care if a child gets sick and they can't go to day care, not having a back-up. Some of those very real challenges represent a barrier for their participation in the labour market.