The other question I have for all of the panel is, as far as engaging the aboriginal community and looking for the people who could be interested in skills development for your particular sector, do you partner with the communities? I appreciate what Mr. Webster said. I think that's right, community driven. Communities that have good leadership and are supportive have success.
Also with the educational institutions, do you do all of the training on your own or do you partner with colleges and training facilities to bring those skills to the aboriginal students?