Sure. I'm not trying to be too much of a politician, but I think you need to have both. There's a reality here. To go back to the labour market partner forums, you would actually be able to put that together in terms of national standards if you had that work being done on a continuous basis.
So yes, we agree with national standards, because people have to have some portability. They have to know that if they got some training in Ontario, it applies in Saskatchewan, and that if they got it in Saskatchewan, it applies in Nova Scotia. We need to have those. But again, you're going to get provinces coming in with particular issues to be dealt with because of their situations.
I want to underline that when I talk about labour market partner forums, those are ongoing forums. I was the labour co-chair of what was the Saskatchewan Labour Force Development Board for many years. We didn't meet once or twice a year; we met regularly, constantly. These were the discussions that took place between employers and labour, between governments, about what we needed to do to build labour force development. Then we could feed that into the national level as well.
We need it at all levels. You can have it if you work together.