Some of the problems, I guess, are low education and achievement levels, not all people getting to grade 12. Second is that drug and alcohol use is an issue. Child care may be an issue. Transportation may be an issue. One critical issue is what you would call “survivability” in the workplace; that is, retention, because there still are systematic prejudices within the workplace. We found in Mica units 5 and 6 projects, where we're partnered with the camp construction and the catering contract, that until we got over about five to seven people—a critical mass of our people in there—people would go, and if they ran into HR problems, they'd quit. So staying there and be determined there.... Once we got about 15 people in there, we had enough aboriginal people in the workplace that if they did run into problems they were supporting each other and standing up for each other.
So I think that those are some of the key areas that need to be addressed.