Maybe there's a bit of a misunderstanding or maybe the knowledge is not there about how much workers are involved, but obviously, major union groups like Unifor and others are major trainers in this country. They have their own training centres set up right across the country, and in a lot of the natural resources sectors the unions and worker groups also have that and work very closely with employers.
I think a lot of that goes on today. Could they do more? As for the union side, I'm not sure. Should they do more? I think there should be much more cooperation between—