I think that sounds like some like some data that perhaps our committee should try to get from the provinces. Before we talk about expanding who can participate in LMDAs, it's important to know if there are eligible people who are actually getting turned down.
Mr. Brazeau, is it fair to say that the employer to some degree really doesn't care about eligibility? It's really about their thinking that they need that warm body and don't care if it's an LMDA person, or someone from the targeted initiative for an older workers, or someone who has come the apprentice program. It's just that they need that warm body. Is there any sense from your businesses that no, that money has to be kept so that if I lay off someone from my shop, I really want to know that their and my contributions are supporting them in their—