Thank you.
I want to thank our witnesses for being here today.
Mr. Allen, I want to talk a bit more about what I'm now going to call the engineering paradox. You have employers who are looking across the country for engineers with 4 to 10 years' experience before they are willing to hire them. Then you have this cohort of new graduates or newly trained people who don't have this experience but are qualified as engineers academically.
Is the industry looking for the government to solve that? Is the industry willing to put some skin in the game in a mentorship program, an internship program, or an apprenticeship program, much like we saw when we travelled to Germany, to try to solve what I call the engineering paradox? How do employers in your industry see their role in solving this problem?