I would echo those comments. Employer engagement and mobility are two big issues that need to be addressed.
One of the things around mobility that is important is to recognize that people may start their training in one province and finish in another. They may be halfway through a program and they need to move because they need to become an apprentice, and the agreement should recognize that. Right now, there is a tendency that you have to do everything in the province that you started in, your training, your apprenticeship, and your first job. If we could figure out ways to engage industry, the training institutions, and the unions to figure out how to best make that work, I think that's critical to seeing more success and more value for the dollars that are invested in these programs.