Thanks to our witnesses for coming in today.
I want to understand a little bit better some of the challenges in implementing social finance. In particular, you mentioned, Ms. Harty, that we need to have rigorous use of metrics and data collection, and that's the sort of thing that helps to provide the guarantees that we're getting real outcomes. I guess there's work involved in designing the metrics, but also in collecting the data, and having the capacity to collect and evaluate the data.
Are there challenges in our capacity to collect data and to rigorously evaluate metrics? Do we need to develop things? Is there a gap between Canada and other countries in that respect that we would need to fill in?