I apologize, Mr. Chair. That certainly wasn't my intention. My intention was to make sure that we understand that social finance is not just about a profit driven back to one entity that may invest in social finance. Many social finance models break even. Sometimes they lose money. They are based on communities coming together, organizations coming together for a better social purpose.
A lot of the testimony from the witnesses, with all the respect, Mr. Chair, has been that social finance doesn't work unless there is a massive profit that accrues to some organization that has invested in it. My point is that this is not the case in all social finance models. That was my point. That's why I was asking about United Way. Some of these other.... I know my local food bank is very involved in social finance. It's leveraging private sector dollars and so on. Are those not successful examples of social finance, where the issue isn't about how much money an investor is making, but about a better social purpose outcome at the end of the day?
Are those not projects you support?