I'm going to intervene. I think you're off topic here. I'm not certain that they came to answer questions about their union and what their practices are.
If it deals with social finance, I'm fine with the question. But you're not asking if they're into social finance or not, Mr. Mayes, so I'm just cautioning you. I want to keep this on track. I don't want it to turn into something that's outside the realm of our study.