Certainly. No question about it, but the other side of it, in terms of this point of the current system not working very well, is that we have a larger conversation going on in what's called outcome service delivery. There are also some problems attached to that, in that the contracts from the Government of Alberta are coming with more and more strings attached. Organizations are also having issues in terms of having the accountants on staff and all of the technical services required to show you are measuring an outcome and that you've reached this outcome. Whether we go into social finance or not, even if we stick to what has become the traditional model in Alberta, it also has problems. That's a topic for another day.
There are also a series of issues organizations are facing with outcome service delivery, even if we just stick with the status quo. I readily admit that people are talking like that as well out here.