I agree, and I'll just add quickly to that.
One of the important pieces is that—and I'm happy that James brought it up—I think there's a very strong moral and ethical dilemma here and that's around attacking the root causes and the focus there. That's one of the really important pieces of having some strong intermediation so that the intention of these projects is held to the utmost standard towards tackling the things that we actually are seeking to tackle, which will help mitigate some of the risks that the CASW has identified.
Obviously, there are fundamental principal differences that we share, but I think ultimately we share the goal of a stronger community in which we're tackling some of these hard-to-tackle challenges.