Evidence of meeting #105 for Human Resources, Skills and Social Development and the Status of Persons with Disabilities in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was chair.
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Liberal
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Conservative
Steven Blaney Conservative Bellechasse—Les Etchemins—Lévis, QC
Mr. Chair, I would like to request a recorded division, please.
(Motion agreed to: yeas 5; nays 4)
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Liberal
Mona Fortier Liberal Ottawa—Vanier, ON
Mr. Chair, I move that we proceed now to the next order of business. Thank you very much.
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Liberal
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Conservative
Mark Warawa Conservative Langley—Aldergrove, BC
I would like a recorded vote.
(Motion agreed to: yeas 5; nays 4)
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Bryan May
We will be proceeding to the next order of the day. Thank you for your time today, gentlemen. Hopefully in the near future I'll be able to read your names into the record to show you were here.
We will be bringing in the next group of witnesses, and we'll be moving forward to the next stage in experiential learning.
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Conservative
Mark Warawa Conservative Langley—Aldergrove, BC
Thank you, Chair.
I'm referring to Bosc and Gagnon. It says on page 323, “When in the Chair, the Speaker embodies the power and authority of the office.... He or she must at all times show, and be seen to show, the impartiality required to sustain the trust and goodwill of the House.”
Chair, in chapter 20 under “Committees”—again in Bosc and Gagnon—on pages 1038 and 1040, it says:
The Chair is a key figure in any committee. Chairs are so important that when a committee does not have one, it is not considered properly constituted. It can undertake no work or other activities, and cannot exercise any of its powers. Committee chairs have procedural, administrative, and representative responsibilities.... Chairs preside over committee meetings and oversee committee work. They recognize the members, witnesses, and other people who wish to speak at these meetings.
Again, Chair, it's to be done in an impartial way.
Chair, —
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Bryan May
Excuse me, Mr. Warawa, is there a standing order that has been contravened? From what I'm hearing, you're simply repeating the motion that was in the House. If this isn't a point of order, we're going to move forward.
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Conservative
Mark Warawa Conservative Langley—Aldergrove, BC
Chair, we're at committee. This is nothing to do with what's happened in the House.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Bryan May
I understand, but is there a standing order that has been contravened that you want to reference right now?
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Conservative
Mark Warawa Conservative Langley—Aldergrove, BC
Yes, Chair. I would like an opportunity to speak. I had my hand up previous to others and did not have a chance to speak.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Bryan May
I already ruled on that point of order. Do you have another point of order, a standing order specifically, which has been contravened and which you can refer to right now? Otherwise, I'm going to have to move on.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Bryan May
Thank you.
Gentlemen. I apologize. Please sit tight.
I'm going to finish presenting you and actually mention your names.
From the Treasury Board Secretariat, we have Drew Heavens, executive director, compensation and labour relations sector. We have Don Graham, executive director, office of the chief human resources officer. We have Dennis Duggan, labour relations consultant, compensation and labour relations sector. We have Michael Gager, advisor and economist, expenditure analysis and compensation planning, expenditure management sector.
We are going to start now with clause-by-clause. First of all, thank you, gentlemen, for being here today
Shall clause 1 carry?
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Conservative
Steven Blaney Conservative Bellechasse—Les Etchemins—Lévis, QC
Mr. Chair, I would like to say something please.
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Conservative
Steven Blaney Conservative Bellechasse—Les Etchemins—Lévis, QC
Mr. Chair, thank you very much for finally giving me the chance to speak. I think that is one of your prerogatives.
During our consideration of the bill, I asked the public servants an important question about the cost of the sick leave that public servants take before they retire. Did we get an answer?
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Conservative
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Liberal
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Conservative