I'll attempt an answer. I don't know because we don't follow people, track people, in that way. We don't know how skills are being used. I think it's correct that universities have become important feeder schools for colleges—not just in the trades but also in the diploma programs in colleges. What I hear from a lot of students who do that is that they get the applied skills that they don't get at university. So they might take a sociology program—if I speak about my own discipline—and then go to college and do a diploma in human resources management or something like that.
There seems to be, though, a sense that those transferable skills the previous speaker mentioned are not always clear to students as they're graduating. They're seeking more applied skills to be more competitive on the labour market.