Evidence of meeting #105 for Human Resources, Skills and Social Development and the Status of Persons with Disabilities in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was chair.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Wolfgang Lehmann  Associate Professor, Department of Sociology, Western University, As an Individual
Luisa Atkinson  Director, First Nation Housing, Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation
Paula Speevak  President and Chief Executive Officer, Volunteer Canada

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Bryan May

Do you have a point of order, sir?

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Conservative

Mark Warawa Conservative Langley—Aldergrove, BC

Yes, I do.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Bryan May

Please get to it.

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Conservative

Mark Warawa Conservative Langley—Aldergrove, BC

We have a right to speak to—

4:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Bryan May

Do you have a point of order, sir?

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Conservative

Mark Warawa Conservative Langley—Aldergrove, BC

Yes, I do.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Bryan May

Then please tell us what that happens to be.

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Conservative

Mark Warawa Conservative Langley—Aldergrove, BC

The point of order is that we have the right to speak to the clause before the vote is held.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Bryan May

This isn't a point of order.

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Conservative

Steven Blaney Conservative Bellechasse—Les Etchemins—Lévis, QC

I have a point of order, Mr. Chair.

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Conservative

Mark Warawa Conservative Langley—Aldergrove, BC

I challenge the decision of the chair.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Bryan May

What was explained to me was that the motion is relevant if it has to do with the clause that we're debating at this particular time. It is not, and it's not an issue. Clause 1 of this bill is not referred to in any way by this motion.

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Conservative

Mark Warawa Conservative Langley—Aldergrove, BC

What motion? There is not a motion on the floor.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Bryan May

There was just a motion on the floor.

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Conservative

Mark Warawa Conservative Langley—Aldergrove, BC

You introduced a motion, saying, shall it carry? We said, no, we want to speak to it. You went ahead and called the vote before allowing us. Are you saying, Chair, that we do not have the right to speak to any of these clauses, that you're just going to pass them and say—

4:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Bryan May

Of course, I'm not saying that, sir.

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Conservative

Mark Warawa Conservative Langley—Aldergrove, BC

Then we want to speak to clause 1, which is on essential service. We want to speak to it before you call the vote. May we speak to it?

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Bryan May

Is that what is actually being asked here? You said you had a point of order, sir.

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Conservative

Mark Warawa Conservative Langley—Aldergrove, BC

I asked you a question, Chair. Will you give us—

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Bryan May

And I'm asking you a question. What is your point of order? Every time I've given you guys the floor you've used stall tactic after stall tactic—every single time. You talk about trust. I'm asking you, you said you have a point of order, and what is that point of order?

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Conservative

Mark Warawa Conservative Langley—Aldergrove, BC

I have said it numerous times and I will repeat it, Chair. The point of order is I would like, and some of my colleagues would like, to speak to clause 1 prior to your calling a vote. Will you recognize us, opposition members, and give us an opportunity to speak to clause 1, which amends the definition of “essential service”? May I have that right?

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Bryan May

If you wish to debate the merits or concerns around clause 1, yes.

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Conservative

Mark Warawa Conservative Langley—Aldergrove, BC

Thank you very much.

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Conservative

Steven Blaney Conservative Bellechasse—Les Etchemins—Lévis, QC

Mr. Chair, I have a point of order.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Bryan May

Mr. Blaney has a point of order.