Evidence of meeting #106 for Human Resources, Skills and Social Development and the Status of Persons with Disabilities in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was students.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Duncan Sinclair  Incoming Chair of the Board, Deloitte
Annette Bergeron  President, Engineers Canada
Scott Hillier  President and Chief Executive Officer, Junior Achievement Canada
Andrea Ross  Senior Lead, Computing Education, Shopify Inc.
Andrew Cash  Co-Founder and President, Urban Worker Project

5:25 p.m.

Conservative

Rosemarie Falk Conservative Battlefords—Lloydminster, SK

Thank you all for being here today.

I have a question for Mr. Hillier.

You mentioned that the organization Junior Achievement is a non-profit organization. You mentioned that your organization runs on donations, and that they are received from government. Which orders of government invest in the organization?

5:30 p.m.

President and Chief Executive Officer, Junior Achievement Canada

Scott Hillier

It can be any level of government. Usually it's provincial because, obviously, the education programs that we're providing are aligned with the local provincial education ministry. One of the largest, though, is the innovation entrepreneurship ministry in British Columbia. They provide probably half of the total for the whole country by comparison. Usually the donations are from—

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

Rosemarie Falk Conservative Battlefords—Lloydminster, SK

And that's from the $20 million, so half of that. Is that what you're referring to?

5:30 p.m.

President and Chief Executive Officer, Junior Achievement Canada

Scott Hillier

Of the $20 million, about 5% is done by government.

That's roughly $1 million across the whole country, across all levels of government, for the 16 charters and the national office, but about half of that, so about $500,000, is from one ministry in British Columbia.

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

Rosemarie Falk Conservative Battlefords—Lloydminster, SK

Then where do you get the rest of the monies? Is it from private donors?

5:30 p.m.

President and Chief Executive Officer, Junior Achievement Canada

Scott Hillier

Corporations really see themselves as the beneficiary of our work. They want to invest in tomorrow's workforce, and they're very generous in Canada. They have active and very well-engaged corporate social responsibility programs, and they actively volunteer but also donate to JAC's programs. A good percentage of our funding comes from corporations, but also individuals and foundations, etc.

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

Rosemarie Falk Conservative Battlefords—Lloydminster, SK

Okay. Thank you very much.

5:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Bryan May

MP Long, please, for five minutes.

5:30 p.m.

Liberal

Wayne Long Liberal Saint John—Rothesay, NB

Thank you to our presenters. I'm going to be sharing my time with MP Ruimy.

My first question is for Mr. Hillier.

We've heard a lot of testimony recently about people advocating for the expansion of the Canada summer jobs program into the Canada youth jobs program. That would help young people who cannot afford to take on unpaid internships break into fields in which previous experience in that particular field is essential as a prerequisite for paid employment. Can you give me your opinion? In your view, would a Canada youth jobs program help more young people, and particularly those from historically marginalized groups, and those living in poverty, break into the business world and learn the skills they need in order to become a successful entrepreneur, engineer, or technology developer?

Then I would like to ask Mr. Cash the same question.

5:30 p.m.

President and Chief Executive Officer, Junior Achievement Canada

Scott Hillier

Of course, we would support anything that provides an opportunity for today's youth. For the at-risk and marginalized youth, I think, the challenge is accessing them. It's finding out where they are and having that network of communication so that they can be identified and supported. They face other challenges beyond just regular employment and funding opportunities, whether it be self-employment opportunities.... Yes, we think it's a great thing to continue; however, there are other opportunities, avenues, and partnerships that should be explored that help access and actually tighten the reach to those individuals who are at risk, are marginalized, and wouldn't traditionally find access to those programs as other students may.

5:30 p.m.

Liberal

Wayne Long Liberal Saint John—Rothesay, NB

Okay.

Mr. Cash.

5:30 p.m.

Co-Founder and President, Urban Worker Project

Andrew Cash

For clarification, are you asking about an expansion of the Canada summer jobs program specifically?

5:30 p.m.

Liberal

Wayne Long Liberal Saint John—Rothesay, NB

Yes. It would be a kind of hybrid, if you will.

5:30 p.m.

Co-Founder and President, Urban Worker Project

Andrew Cash

A hybrid that isn't just located during the summer months but could potentially—

5:30 p.m.

Liberal

Wayne Long Liberal Saint John—Rothesay, NB

Right. It would extend into the fall.

5:30 p.m.

Co-Founder and President, Urban Worker Project

Andrew Cash

Yes, in fact, I think that's one of the shortcomings of the Canada summer jobs program. It's a great program for giving young people an experience in the jobs world but it's a limited time frame.

5:30 p.m.

Liberal

Wayne Long Liberal Saint John—Rothesay, NB

Right.

5:30 p.m.

Co-Founder and President, Urban Worker Project

Andrew Cash

Although I much agree with my colleague here, especially for young people from immigrant communities, for example, I think they are facing all sorts of complicated barriers.

Access to the experience is important, but that access has to be coupled with other resources, and we need to think about this in a much more holistic way. We have to be thinking about access to affordable housing, public transportation, and those kinds of pillars that really make a difference for young people.

5:30 p.m.

Liberal

Wayne Long Liberal Saint John—Rothesay, NB

Okay, thank you very much.

I'll go over to MP Ruimy.

5:30 p.m.

Liberal

Dan Ruimy Liberal Pitt Meadows—Maple Ridge, BC

Thank you very much.

We're going to go quickly. Ms. Ross, you were talking about your program and you said there were how many currently in the program?

5:30 p.m.

Senior Lead, Computing Education, Shopify Inc.

Andrea Ross

There are 24.

5:30 p.m.

Liberal

Dan Ruimy Liberal Pitt Meadows—Maple Ridge, BC

Twenty-four. You said next year it's going to go up to...?

5:30 p.m.

Senior Lead, Computing Education, Shopify Inc.

Andrea Ross

In September we're bringing on 20 more, so it will be up to 44.

5:30 p.m.

Liberal

Dan Ruimy Liberal Pitt Meadows—Maple Ridge, BC

What is the criteria for that?

5:30 p.m.

Senior Lead, Computing Education, Shopify Inc.

Andrea Ross

There is a step process. They have to be accepted at the university, of course. Then they are also accepted at Shopify. We have a screening process where we start out separating all kinds of things that identify age, sex, culture, religion. We actually review purely on the merit of their answers. What also is quite innovative in terms of what we're doing is that we're not testing privilege. We're not testing if they have had experience with this particular programming language or this particular tool. We actually are doing cognitive testing. Can they think through a problem? We have no time limit. We are basically saying, “These are the problems, take your time, and think your way through.” We use that to inform us on who we want to bring in for interviews, which is a more traditional process at that point. We also look for things like well-roundedness. Have they been in a band, on a sports team, have they volunteered in their community, have they taught something to someone, because we're looking for well-rounded individuals in the program.