Evidence of meeting #124 for Human Resources, Skills and Social Development and the Status of Persons with Disabilities in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was clause.
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11:55 a.m.
Conservative
Rosemarie Falk Conservative Battlefords—Lloydminster, SK
The accessibility commissioner should receive anti-racism, anti-oppression and cultural competency training to ensure that a complaint process does not perpetuate systematic discrimination experienced by ethno-racial persons with disabilities, or even indigenous persons with disabilities.
It's just becoming aware that different things have different meaning in different cultures. In some cultures, you don't make eye contact with people—it's actually disrespectful to do that. Unless people are educated and aware, they are causing more harm than good.
(Amendment negatived)
(Clause 148 agreed to)
11:55 a.m.
The Vice-Chair Mr. John Barlow
As you can see, lunch is being set up now. We have a bunch we can carry here. If we can get through those really quickly in the next two minutes before noon, we'll do that. Then we'll break for 10 minutes to grab lunch.
(On clause 149)
On clause 149, we have CPC-56.
Mrs. Falk.
11:55 a.m.
Conservative
Rosemarie Falk Conservative Battlefords—Lloydminster, SK
Clause 149 should ensure that persons with disabilities participate meaningfully in the monitoring and implementation of the CRPD. Such participation is required under article 33(3) of the CRPD.
Clause 149 must be amended to require the Canadian Human Rights Commission to monitor in accordance with articles 33(2) and 33(3) of the CRPD.
Sufficient resources must be provided to the commission and disability communities to support them in their roles.
(Amendment negatived)
Noon
The Vice-Chair Mr. John Barlow
Can I have unanimous consent to group the votes on clauses 149 to 153?
Noon
Conservative
Noon
The Vice-Chair Mr. John Barlow
I'm asking for unanimous consent to group the votes on clauses 150 to 153.
Noon
Some hon. members
Agreed.
Noon
The Vice-Chair Mr. John Barlow
(Clauses 150 to 153 inclusive agreed to)
(On clause 154)
Mr. Ruimy, please present LIB-62.
Noon
Liberal
Dan Ruimy Liberal Pitt Meadows—Maple Ridge, BC
This is replacing the word “emotional” with the word “psychological”. The bill generally refers to psychological harm, except in two instances where it interchangeably refers to emotional harm. This amendment will ensure the bill consistently uses the term “psychological harm”.
Noon
Conservative
Rosemarie Falk Conservative Battlefords—Lloydminster, SK
I understand consistency, but why can't it be psychological and emotional harm?
Noon
Liberal
Dan Ruimy Liberal Pitt Meadows—Maple Ridge, BC
I know we had conversations. I'm just trying to think of what the witnesses were telling us.
Honestly, it's because there are two instances of “emotional harm”. We're making it more consistent throughout the entire act. Why would you have two sections referring to it as “emotional harm”, when we're referring to it as “psychological harm”?
Noon
Conservative
Rosemarie Falk Conservative Battlefords—Lloydminster, SK
I see psychological and emotional as two different things.
Is the government proposing that we specifically remove “emotional harm”?
Noon
Liberal
Dan Ruimy Liberal Pitt Meadows—Maple Ridge, BC
Yes. We're replacing “emotional” with “psychological” to make it consistent throughout.
Noon
Conservative
Rosemarie Falk Conservative Battlefords—Lloydminster, SK
They're two different things, I'm just wondering about this. Is psychological harm more important than emotional harm? I'm just trying to understand.
Noon
Director General, Accessibility Secretariat, Department of Employment and Social Development
Our apologies to the committee. It is a drafting error. The intent all the way through was to use “psychological”. It is a broader and more accepted term and it encompasses the emotional aspect.
Noon
Conservative
Noon
The Vice-Chair Mr. John Barlow
Thank you very much for your intervention.
(Amendment agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])
(Clause 154 as amended agreed to)
(On clause 155)
We'll move to clause 155. If we get through this, you can go and have lunch, probably, by the looks of it.
We have LIB-63, with Mr. Ruimy.
Noon
Liberal
Dan Ruimy Liberal Pitt Meadows—Maple Ridge, BC
Again, this is referring back to replacing “emotional” with “psychological” as a consequential amendment to LIB-62.
Noon
The Vice-Chair Mr. John Barlow
Again, it's just changing “emotional” to “psychological”.
(Amendment agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])
(Clause 155 as amended agreed to)
Can I have unanimous consent to group the votes on clauses 156 to 162?
Noon
Some hon. members
Agreed.