Evidence of meeting #13 for Human Resources, Skills and Social Development and the Status of Persons with Disabilities in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was workers.

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On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Corinne Pohlmann  Senior Vice-President, National Affairs, Canadian Federation of Independent Business
Didier Huck  Vice-President Public Affairs and Corporate Social Responsability, Moving Picture Company, Technicolor
Émilie Dussault  General Manager, Moving Picture Company, Technicolor
Michelle Grady  Head of Film, Moving Picture Company, Technicolor
Donalda Madsen  As an Individual
Christopher Smillie  Senior Advisor, Government Relations and Public Affairs, Canada's Building Trades Unions
Sean Elbe  Sector Development Manager, Technology, Vancouver Economic Commission
Kathy Gibson  Senior Consultant, Vancouver Economic Commission

5:20 p.m.

Kathy Gibson Senior Consultant, Vancouver Economic Commission

Thank you so much, Sean, and thank you to the committee members and the chair for the opportunity to present.

My name is Kathy Gibson, and I am here on behalf of VEC. We are privy to quite a lot of information from a lot of different companies within Vancouver and foreign direct investors who are looking at investing in Vancouver. Typically, we hear from folks who are shopping around different cities and determining where they want to set up base for their operations. Talent acquisition and availability are key considerations in where those folks decide to come.

We are very interested today in focusing this conversation around knowledge-based, highly skilled, highly mobile workers. There is an opportunity here. Employers have a legitimate need and use for the program, and changes to the program can help in bringing growth and jobs to Canada. The current program has been designed for low-skilled workers. As a consequence, Canadian businesses are not able to access the much-needed skilled workers they require. It is a different dialogue and a different narrative from discussions of low-skilled workers. A significant and exciting opportunity exists to ensure that we are building policies that are congruent with the needs of the industry. We must ensure that we are building programs and capitalizing on excellence rather than adequacy. Employers need to be enabled to hire the best talent, people with specialized skills who can drive innovation and are highly sought-after.

As you are aware from your constituents, we hear from employers that it is in their interests to maximize domestic Canadian workers first, as it is very costly to run international searches, attract and interview talent, and then look to relocate them. Finally, once they are found, there is a time sensitivity in bringing key personnel into Canada. Of course, the intent to protect vulnerable temporary foreign workers is certainly there. However, technology-based, digital entertainment-based workers are well educated, speak English, are well paid, are head-hunted, and are in high demand internationally.

Including technology workers in this vulnerable category is problematic, inefficient, and an unnecessary drain on government resources. You have the opportunity to design a program that could make Canada more attractive than the U.S.A. and other regions through immigration programs. It should be noted that the brain drain of Canadian talent to the U.S. will always be an issue. Given the global mobility of technology talent, coupled with the sheer tenfold size of the U.S. economy and population, the loss of some talent must be expected. In light of this fact, Canada must reform and improve policy in order to be competitive and retain talent.

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Bryan May

Ms. Gibson, I hate to cut you off, but we are....

5:25 p.m.

Senior Consultant, Vancouver Economic Commission

Kathy Gibson

No problem.

Should you like to ask me about the unintentional consequences, I would be very happy to address those questions and recommendations.

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Bryan May

Fantastic.

First of all, thank you. Thank you to all the witnesses so far.

We do have to move, but before we do, there are a couple of things.

For the committee members, there is a shuttle bus that will be waiting to take us up there. That's one.

Two, when we come back, we will be hearing first from Ms. Bayan. I apologize for the delay, but I promise you will be first on the list when we come back. We are also hearing from Rory McAlpine from Maple Leaf Foods and Anthony Pollard from the Hotel Association of Canada.

Because questions have not been asked, I would suggest that members submit their questions to the clerk. The clerk could then pass those questions on to the witnesses for answers which we could then distribute to the committee and have in the record. I apologize that we weren't able to ask questions in person, but we will be doing that. When we come back, we won't have time to follow up with questions to those who have spoken already.

Ms. Ashton.

5:25 p.m.

NDP

Niki Ashton NDP Churchill—Keewatinook Aski, MB

First of all, I find it very troubling that we've had this whole meeting without time for questions.

While it's good to apologize, I can certainly say that I find that very troubling.

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Bryan May

Okay.

5:25 p.m.

NDP

Niki Ashton NDP Churchill—Keewatinook Aski, MB

Sorry, Chair.

With the second round, will we have time for Qs and As given that we won't be having the same kind of time constraints?

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Bryan May

That will depend of course on the time that is allowed to us.

5:30 p.m.

NDP

Niki Ashton NDP Churchill—Keewatinook Aski, MB

I would encourage the committee, and I hope that you will take that opportunity.

5:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Bryan May

Of course. Always. Thank you.

The meeting is suspended.

Meeting adjourned.