I can jump in on that. No, the numbers are not going to bear out.
We've been working in schools for decades against the system and the culture of Canada because of exactly what Rick talked about. We need to change. We need to have a parity of esteem. We need people to respect both sides of the equation, and frankly, to points made earlier, right now you go get a university education and you end up having to become a skilled tradesperson anyway. We need to teach people to not waste those 10 years and to get into it right now, because there are huge opportunities.