Just so we're clear, the four weeks is before they go on a job site and when the union pays them. Then they go 10 weeks, and the employer pays them for on-site work. At the end of the 14 weeks, right now just under 75% of the women who started at the beginning are signing up for full carpentry apprenticeships, such as in drywall. That's at the end of their 14 weeks.
It's too early to tell what the retention rate is through the apprenticeship programs, but we recognize that women face special challenges there. We're trying to mentor them. If you look at the leaflet we handed out, you'll see that we're trying to make sure they have mentorship from tradespersons or more senior apprentices who are women to try to keep them in. We always have a drop-off rate with our apprentices, but we anticipate special problems for women, or more challenges for women, so we are really trying hard to keep them in the programs.