So $10 billion exactly, and that would be the cost to the taxpayers.
It's interesting that it is discussed and said that way because often when we were justifying the changes, we heard from the then-opposition Liberals how it was going to be cost neutral and that there was no cost to the taxpayer because it was already paid for, essentially, by the taxpayer. But there are significant costs, as much as we want to take care of our seniors.
I call them Joe and Jane Taxpayer, and they have to pay the bill at the end of the day. I'm concerned about how far we're getting ahead of ourselves in terms of public debt and deficits. When we first started here with this committee our briefing had a statistic on the CPP unfunded liability. Does anybody on the panel know what the unfunded liability of CPP is in Canada currently?