The specific programs that.... Well, I don't want to get into specific programs. I think the general flavour of the response is that government can have the best of intentions.
Governments cannot legislate prosperity. That leads to mistakes like they have in Alberta, where raising the the minimum.... Everyone wants to get rid of low income, and everyone wants to help poor people, but raising the minimum wage to $15 an hour is unlikely to help. It might even hurt. It could very well be that those people whose minimum wage you want to raise may end up losing their jobs altogether. They can end up being worse off, so I think there's a counsel there for government to be cautious. There are unintended consequences from policies. They may in fact make the situation worse.
I go back to the overall argument, too, that these policies may slow overall growth. I think we've clearly seen that in Ontario. It has been chronically below the national average over the last 10 years. Most of its indicators related to unemployment and incomes have deteriorated. This is going to hurt the very low-income people who I think everybody most wants to help.