That's fine. I think you're asking a particular group of people, though, if you look at the middle-income wage earners, the people who are eating Kraft Dinner...which is a dollar a box, if you've ever bought it. How is that person going to afford...? If you want to double that for a working family, you're talking about mom and dad with about $13,000 before taxes per year. It's impossible.
Brad, I want to talk about the CPP. We call it a small-business tax, and we have the other side saying it's not a tax. Essentially, it is like a tax. It's the Joe and Jane Taxpayer types of small businesses that have to bear this and still be competitive in the market, still make jobs from their hairdressing business, coffee shop, or whatever; and we're constantly asking them to give more.
From your perspective, what is the CPP business tax rate per person going to be, the actual number? We've heard it's more.