Thank you. The questions are longer than the comments.
I would say that I had 48 hours to prepare this brief. We will be doing a longer submission to your committee. When you're talking about costs and who pays for it, you have to also take into account the costs that you are saving through addressing poverty. That was the point I was trying to make. We do know that the costs of poverty are extremely high.
Jennefer made mention of the Alternative Federal Budget. We also have an alternative provincial budget that looks very carefully at tax rates. I think if we had a more progressive tax system in this country, we would not be penalizing the near-poor or people who are just at the poverty line. We'd be actually having a much fairer tax system.
It's not that I dismiss this question, but I think you are evading the basic issue, which is also the cost of poverty.