Again, it's not specifically in our area of expertise, but certainly in our experience there are two points. On the post-secondary funding piece, we strive to employ indigenous people to make up 10% to 15% of our instructors across the country. That is no easy feat considering how few indigenous students there are in science and technology. Those who we get we hear on a regular basis are absolutely struggling. They're in post-secondary. They have the funding, but it's so limited, and in many cases we have plugged holes for them in different creative ways.
The best single way we can get more kids going down that path is by having role models they can relate to who are in university, a college program, or employed. The can come back to the community and share those stories. It is the easiest, most straightforward solution to get more indigenous people into universities, those people on the waiting list, getting them in and supporting them properly.
From a housing perspective, we're doing major work around the housing issue when we're in communities where, as the example was given, they're overcrowding. Kids are sleeping in shifts, for example, so we actually design our programs like a summer camp in two different shifts so that kids who are sleeping can come when they're not sleeping, and then the other kids can come after. Those are the realities within which we are delivering our programs.
Part of the reason we get kids to attend is we feed them three meals during the science camp. That has a significant amount of value. It's a hook. It's the way that we get kids into our programs. Those housing issues are incredibly powerful, but the kids are still coming to the camp. They come every day. They're super eager. They are knocking on the doors asking when camp starts. They're devastated when we leave and are thrilled when we come back.
Despite the fact that they're dealing with those things, they are still very committed to experiencing and being part of these types of programs. We need some optimism, even though that doesn't excuse the problem, and we need to focus on it. It isn't preventing us from still investing in these kids. We can't wait to solve all those problems before we start to build on their potential to be contributing. They'll be lost.