It depends on the sector and the needs of the training program. To give one quick example, Ndinawe is a youth-serving organization, which developed a specialized child and youth care diploma program. It's still certified through our college, and they can go on to university, etc. This program, however, is specialized for survivors of sexual exploitation and human trafficking. They build in all of the trauma-informed and culturally appropriate services. Then they start working in the helping field on prevention and with other sexually exploited youth in the area of human trafficking.
They've created an alumni program because now these women, who have been highly traumatized, have a diploma. Some of them even go on to pursue their degrees. Now they're working, but they're triggered every day. They're triggered by the trauma of their past—and for them that would be more extreme. We can't underestimate trauma for an indigenous person who has either intergenerational or direct trauma.