Yes. That's one of the areas in which the Ma Mawi Wi Chi Itata Centre specializes. You call it innovation. We call it indigenous traditional knowledge, where we are doing things differently. For example, we have a program called family group conferencing, which changes child welfare because it changes the decision-making in the child protection from the child welfare agency to the family. We're actually reducing the kids coming into care and preventing kids from coming into care in the first place. That's done through a model we call family group conferencing.
It's referred to as innovation, but much of the work that's being done and led by indigenous organizations is innovative. It really is going back to who we are as indigenous people.