We set up our own task force on homelessness. I can't remember all the people, but faith-based organizations, churches, social organizations, everybody who had anything to do with poverty was invited to the table, including, of course, councillors. Through public consultation, many of the initiatives were brought out, and we have staff go out and have open houses on certain issues. Otherwise, I can say that our council is made up of like-minded individuals. We have hired a senior social planner, who's sent from heaven, I think, and he has guided our city into a very caring position.
I think that's how we were able to do it, especially the living wage, because people thought this was going to be doom and gloom. What's going to happen to everybody? The living wage is $20.64 at the moment. That means basic needs are met by a family, including even ballet lessons for your child or something like that. People have accepted these things. We're quite lucky.