Shelters are just an interim measure. We think the housing first is really the way to go with folks in the housing shelters.
Most people actually don't remain in the shelter. It's the chronic residents there you want to target with the housing first program. What you need, definitely, are supports. You need a good system of supports to keep those people housed.
It's not always successful. It's working very well—the outcome of the pilot project—and that's why a lot of money is being invested in housing first.
I know that in Toronto—and maybe Councillor McConnell can talk about this—we have overcrowding in the shelters. I think a lot of that is because we don't have permanent affordable housing with supports for people who, generally, have a lot of other issues that keep them unhoused and on the streets.