Mr. Bach, in Saint John we're proposing a social enterprise pilot whereby we work with the food banks, and the food banks bring in people with disabilities, who take training and warehouse training and learn inventory control. It's win-win, because obviously, the food banks can get some support, and we're helping those people. In the past, we've interviewed witnesses like Mark Wafer from Tim Hortons and Randy Lewis from Walgreens, who are wonderful examples of people who have broken down those barriers.
Again, we're here to come up with federal initiatives whereby we can help with a national poverty reduction strategy. I go back to you: from a federal government perspective, how can we help break down those barriers? How can we help employers? Mark Wafer and Randy Lewis both have children with disabilities, and I think Mark himself is hearing impaired. I'm looking for your ideas as to what programs, what things we can do to really help those people.