I think it depends. The larger corporations.... You talked about Irving. Yes, we are very familiar with their program. I'm very familiar with what they are doing. That helps a lot.
The problem is that we have few large corporations that can do that, versus the small and medium-sized enterprises, which do not necessarily have the same capacity. This is why the Canada job fund agreement programs can help and facilitate this, but if and only if they can support, in some way, the flexibility of women getting a trade job and being protected.