My last question is going to go back to you.
One of the things, Ms. Mackenzie, that I've heard a lot about is around the caregiving and how much of a challenge it is to find people to do the work and how we're seeing poaching happening across that sector. You're talking about the national standards. How can we make those things work together so that we can see more people training perhaps? I don't know what the solution is. I'm asking you if you know.