Okay, interesting.
My last question is a follow-up on a comment made by my colleague, Mr. Warawa. It was an interesting question that he put.
What leadership should the federal government provide in its array of programs? You go from health to housing and all in between. How would you advise this committee as it's doing its report on recommending the federal government show leadership? You're telling us we're at the early age of the tsunami, and the size of the tsunami that's coming depends on who is presenting to this committee.