It doesn't necessarily have to be “hire”. Through the regulations, we'll spell out what a competent person is, and that person.... I think the key part is that it's impartial and has to be agreed to by both parties. Is it an external person? In some cases, it may be. In other cases, if you're in a large organization, such as the public service—
On February 12th, 2018. See this statement in context.