First of all, leading out, I think they have to be profoundly detached from the vested interest of the employer to protect the reputation of the workplace. I think that's what we've seen on Parliament Hill and off. It's great to have the legislation addressing the appointment of a competent person through the ministry of labour, but I'm not sure, given our understanding of the bill, that it does divorce small-p or big-P politics from the process, as much as I think that is the intention.
I do think that really separating the investigative process from the actual the workplace is key. I think we've certainly seen that on Parliament Hill. If we speak to the Edmonton Institution, which, quite frankly, for the purposes of this committee, is in crisis.... Edmonton Institution has been in crisis and we have seen egregious examples of sexual harassment and misconduct that in fact were just ignored for years. I think that even right now Correctional Services Canada is in the defensive position of trying to protect the reputation of the department, of really wanting to be proactive but not really exercising a lot of independence, as much as they are striving for independence.