Evidence of meeting #16 for Human Resources, Skills and Social Development and the Status of Persons with Disabilities in the 43rd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was women.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Armine Yalnizyan  Economist and Atkinson Fellow on the Future of Workers, As an Individual
Matthew Chater  National President and Chief Executive Officer, Big Brothers Big Sisters of Canada
Angela Bonfanti  Senior Vice-President, Foundation Programs, Canadian National Institute for the Blind
Paulette Senior  President and Chief Executive Officer, Canadian Women's Foundation
Clerk of the Committee  Ms. Marie-France Lafleur

5 p.m.

National President and Chief Executive Officer, Big Brothers Big Sisters of Canada

Matthew Chater

Our agencies are very much aware and are doing wellness checks as well, which is well beyond our mandate. We are checking in on families to ensure that they have the appropriate supports there and are connected to the other community services to get support where they need it.

5 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Sean Casey

Thank you.

We're going to go to Mr. Dong for five minutes, if you have questions for Mr. Chater.

5 p.m.

Liberal

Han Dong Liberal Don Valley North, ON

Yes, I do.

I had a prepared question for Ms. Yalnizyan, but I guess she's no longer here.

I will split my time with Mr. Vaughan.

Mr. Chater, good afternoon. Thank you very much for coming to the committee.

I want to start with the question my colleague, Ryan Turnbull, was going into, which is your view on the Canada emergency business account. Were you able to access that program?

5 p.m.

National President and Chief Executive Officer, Big Brothers Big Sisters of Canada

Matthew Chater

Yes, we were. Many of our member agencies, as well, have been able to navigate it. There was some confusion around the eligibility criteria initially, but we were able to get that clarified.

5 p.m.

Liberal

Han Dong Liberal Don Valley North, ON

Great. That program has been tweaked maybe two or three times now, especially on the payroll requirement. Are you aware of that?

5 p.m.

National President and Chief Executive Officer, Big Brothers Big Sisters of Canada

Matthew Chater

Yes.

I would like to mention that coming in to this meeting to talk about the dire situation that Big Brothers Big Sisters is facing considers all of the government programs that are currently in place. As I noted in my opening remarks, we are very grateful for the efforts of the federal government during this time, but we do require additional support.

5 p.m.

Liberal

Han Dong Liberal Don Valley North, ON

Because your service is required by communities, there is quite a bit of demand.

5 p.m.

National President and Chief Executive Officer, Big Brothers Big Sisters of Canada

5 p.m.

Liberal

Han Dong Liberal Don Valley North, ON

Speaking of demand, I represent a riding where a lot of newcomers to Canada choose to reside and work. Can you tell us a bit about your services, programs and demand—observations you've seen—especially coming from the newcomer communities?

5:05 p.m.

National President and Chief Executive Officer, Big Brothers Big Sisters of Canada

Matthew Chater

We see a significant demand. Many of our organizations across Canada have various programs in order to be able to match newly arrived Canadians with young Canadians who are newly integrating into community and to get those supports. We have conversation clubs as well, where young people can start to understand and integrate, or understand what the school system is like within Canada.

We have always seen a strong demand within newcomer communities. We're always adapting our programs and looking at all of our services through an equity, diversity and engagement lens to ensure that our services are meeting those needs.

5:05 p.m.

Liberal

Han Dong Liberal Don Valley North, ON

I'll pass the rest of my time to my colleague, Mr. Vaughan.

Thank you.

5:05 p.m.

Liberal

Adam Vaughan Liberal Spadina—Fort York, ON

I too had a question for Ms. Yalnizyan.

Largely, I want to clear up the record about the notion that no federal funding for child care or early learning is going to Quebec. The reality is that Quebec hasn't signed the accord to take advantage of the $750 million we have invested into that system to improve, increase and distribute more dollars for child care.

On that front, as we talk about long-term care, and as we talk about new federal investments, it's not unreasonable to make sure that those investments also add new capacity, increase quality and don't just simply displace provincial dollars being spent with the support for the status quo. Clearly, what we've heard is that the status quo isn't good enough.

One of the other programs we've offered to invest in and are looking forward to bringing forward in our budget is the issue of after-school and before-school care for older kids.

Mr. Chater, in light of the fact that school is out, and school may not be coming back anytime soon, would it be appropriate to use those dollars to support the works of organizations like yours that deal with youth to make sure that youth are served directly, and that groups that service youth get those funds to make sure—even without school—that they still have a place that's safe and can be provided for through public funds?

5:05 p.m.

National President and Chief Executive Officer, Big Brothers Big Sisters of Canada

Matthew Chater

Yes. That is a challenge that I think many are facing, particularly in urban communities, supporting young people and participating in prosocial behaviours during this time.

5:05 p.m.

Liberal

Adam Vaughan Liberal Spadina—Fort York, ON

If school does reopen in the fall and students return to a place that may be safer than their home, in some circumstances, investment into before- and after-school care is critical to make sure there are safe places for their needs to be met. Would it be wise, then, as we start to move toward recovery, that the promise we made for before- and after-school care for older kids should be intensified to support the learnings we've had coming through the pandemic?

5:05 p.m.

National President and Chief Executive Officer, Big Brothers Big Sisters of Canada

Matthew Chater

I'm not able to speak to policies on before and after care. Big Brothers Big Sisters operates outside of before and after care. Any supports we would have in order to be able to keep youth connected to adult mentors, whether before or after the school setting, would be appreciated.

5:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Sean Casey

Thank you, Mr. Vaughan.

Mr. Chater, thank you for sticking with us, and thank you so much for the work you do.

The meeting is suspended while we prepare for the next witnesses.

5:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Sean Casey

I call the meeting back to order.

5:10 p.m.

Conservative

Stephanie Kusie Conservative Calgary Midnapore, AB

Mr. Chair, I have a point of order.

I certainly don't want to belabour this, but I do want to move the motion that I had put on notice. This one was dated Thursday, May 28, 2020. Everyone should have received it.

It reads as follows:

That, in the context of its study to the government response to the Covid-19 pandemic, the Standing Committee on Human Resources, Skills and Social Development, and the Status of Persons with Disabilities send for the following documents to be provided by the Government by June 30, 2020.

1) All briefing notes, memorandums, emails, guidance and documents related to the Canada Emergency Response Benefit—

5:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Sean Casey

Ms. Kusie, I'm going to stop you there. Your motion is in order, and you did give notice. However, it is not appropriate to move a motion on a point of order. I absolutely invite you to move it when you have the floor, but it isn't a point of order.

June 4th, 2020 / 5:10 p.m.

Conservative

Stephanie Kusie Conservative Calgary Midnapore, AB

Okay. I appreciate that.

Thank you.

5:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Sean Casey

We will now hear from our witnesses. We have with us, from the Canadian National Institute for the Blind, Angela Bonfanti, senior vice-president, foundation programming; and from the Canadian Women's Foundation, Paulette Senior, president and chief executive officer.

Ms. Bonfanti, please proceed with your opening statement. You have 10 minutes.

5:10 p.m.

Angela Bonfanti Senior Vice-President, Foundation Programs, Canadian National Institute for the Blind

Thank you, Chair, and hello, members of Parliament.

My name is Angela Bonfanti, and I am the senior vice-president for the CNIB Foundation.

Before I begin, I'd like to take a moment to acknowledge that this is National AccessAbility Week. While this is an important week every year, given today's current events related to racism and discrimination, this year's National AccessAbility Week is even more important.

For over 100 years, CNIB has been combatting discrimination and advocating for the equity of all Canadians. We serve all Canadians living with sight loss, regardless of age, gender, race or sexual orientation, because blindness, unlike an unfortunate number of people in our world today, does not discriminate. Far too many members of our community must deal with the reality of being marginalized not only for the colour of their skin, for example; they must also deal with additional the discrimination from travelling with a white cane, for example, or a guide dog. At CNIB we have worked diligently, and will continue to do so, until everyone can live, work and play without barriers. We challenge discrimination and support the rights of every Canadian.

I'd like to take this opportunity to highlight how COVID-19 has impacted over one and a half million Canadians living with sight loss. CNIB's mandate is to remove barriers, combat negative ramifications of isolation, and do what we can to help Canadians living with sight loss live the lives they choose. At a time when isolation was being mandated for all, we knew that our community needed us now more than ever. Almost immediately, every one of our staff members picked up the phone and called every participant in our database. Nearly 10,000 Canadians have been phoned to date.

From these calls and these conversations, we have received insights on what the community wants from us during this pandemic and beyond. The response has resulted in hundreds of new virtual programs serving thousands of Canadians with sight loss in just the last 11 weeks alone. Our programs range from technology training sessions to peer support programs to groceries and prescription drug pickup and drop-off services for our clients who are in need.

Also, as we know all too well, every household with children, including mine, has become a school of its own. For families with children who are blind or partially sighted—

5:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Sean Casey

Ms. Bonfanti, could you please hold your mike? It will be easier for the interpreters.

5:15 p.m.

Senior Vice-President, Foundation Programs, Canadian National Institute for the Blind

Angela Bonfanti

Sure.

For families with children who have sight loss, there are new challenges that are presented, so we are providing free access to educational games that have been designed for children who are blind. We are also ensuring families have access to 3D printers to ensure tactile learning continues. This is just the beginning to ensure that no child with sight loss is left behind.

This is a forever change for CNIB. Our virtual offerings are certainly here to stay. We have essentially doubled our program offering without doubling our workforce, and so, as we start our discussions about commencing in-person programs, we must keep the health and safety of our staff in mind, especially since so many of our staff live with sight loss.

In addition to the development of brand new virtual program offerings, our community’s feedback has also helped to develop a new advocacy effort that focuses on the albeit unintended yet nonetheless potentially dangerous consequences associated with physical distancing.

Shortly after the pandemic hit, we heard from participants who were receiving negative attention and facing discrimination while using sighted guides to access essential services. Many individuals who are blind or partially sighted rely on sighted guides to help them safely navigate the grocery store, the pharmacy, their doctor’s office and the bank, for example.

In response, we launched a public awareness campaign with significant media coverage. We sent open letters to legislators, police services, transit commissioners, and supermarket and pharmacy chains to ensure Canadians with sight loss receive the appropriate accommodations during this time. We also raised awareness about physical distancing and guide dogs. While guide dogs are trained to help their partner get from point A to point B, they do not understand physical distancing. These are not the only issues we've heard.

This pandemic has caused great anxiety for the disability community, including Canadians with sight loss. As part of a Canadian Council of the Blind survey, more than 80% of respondents were worried they may not be able to pay for groceries, prescriptions or even their monthly bills.

While we applaud the government and the opposition parties for approving legislative changes to create the Canada emergency response benefit program, it may not be available to many Canadians living on or below the poverty line because of the minimum $5,000 income required to qualify for the program. We understand that employment insurance is available; however, the CERB simply provides more money, and it would be very much welcomed by a population where the majority’s income is less than those without disabilities.

We also acknowledge the letter Minister Qualtrough sent to the provinces urging them not to claw back disability benefits, and we urge further advocacy from the federal government with the provinces on this most important issue.

I would also like to highlight that the CERB provides a monthly benefit of $2,000, but the Canada pension plan disability benefit provides a maximum of $1,300 with an average monthly payment of $971. CNIB strongly recommends modernizing the CPPD in line with the CERB. If a pandemic can show that Canadians, regardless of abilities, need at least $2,000 a month to survive, it should be no different for people with disabilities who are unable to work. Emergency response funding for people with disabilities is greatly needed today. If seniors have access to a one-time, tax-free payment of $300, people with sight loss deserve something similar.

With all of this mind, I would like to ensure that accessibility and inclusion is at the forefront of decision-making as the economy begins to reopen. Our world is inherently tactile, and this is especially important to Canadians who essentially see the world through touch. With a rapidly growing appetite to do everything in a contactless manner, we simply cannot eliminate the elements of a tactile world completely. There would be great dangers and barriers for Canadians with sight loss who rely on these elements to live safely and independently.

As we slowly lift physical distancing measures and reopen the economy, businesses small to large should look no further than people with disabilities to employ. People with disabilities live lives full of obstacles, and they are often left on their own to get over, under and around these obstacles to live successful lives. They are natural innovators and advocates. We believe this is exactly the type of talent organizations need at their table as they open their doors. This is not the time to put accessibility and inclusion on the back burner; it is the time to put it at the forefront, as it will create such incredible value to the Canadian workforce. This is not simply the right thing to do, I assure you; this is the smart thing to do for business.

This past winter, CNIB submitted a pre-budget consultation recommending the federal government fund CNIB's employment program called Come to Work. The program connects job seekers who are blind or partially sighted with employers who want to discover the full potential of Canada's talent. Now is the time to continue this critical work.

Finally, I must highlight the need for financial support for Canada's non-profit and charitable sectors. Since March, the CNIB Foundation, like many other organizations you have heard from already, has seen a significant decrease in donations. They are what we need to continue our business. Even with the help of the Canada emergency wage subsidy, everything we do to support Canadians with sight loss could very well be in jeopardy if we do not raise the funds we need. As a result of the pandemic, we expect to see our revenues continue to decline for the months and potentially years to come.

We are urging the federal government to prioritize financial incentives for organizations that serve the most vulnerable in our society, such as the many Canadians living with disabilities.

At this time I'd like to thank the chair and the committee members for giving us the opportunity to highlight the impacts of COVID-19 on Canadians with sight loss. I would be most happy to answer your questions.

5:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Sean Casey

Thank you, Ms. Bonfanti.

Next we have Ms. Senior from the Canadian Women's Foundation.

Ms. Senior, you have the floor for 10 minutes.