Would you guys clarify that with the Parliamentary Budget Officer, because he said in his update this morning that this hasn't been done yet. That would be very useful to his office.
Mr. Perlman, it's great to have you back again. I'd like to pick up where we left off on Tuesday.
You mentioned that ESDC has a very elaborate evaluation organization, formally called the evaluation directorate.
Have you found an example to share with the committee on where a division of ESDC is underperforming? I mention that, because I reviewed the 2018-19 and 2022-23 departmental evaluation plans, and they were really hard to follow. I say this because back in 2017, the evaluation directorate committed to modernizing its communication approach to increase awareness and the use of evaluation findings, kind of along my line of questioning at our last meeting.
Could you provide some concrete examples of how ESDC has implemented this approach from 2017? How are the findings of the evaluation directorate presented? What metrics are used?