Yes, to be clear, the wheels of change take time, and I think there are a lot of good people—and there have been a lot of good people—in government and in government organizations like CMHC. However, I think it's very easy to fall back into the old systems of colonialism, which means saying, “Yes, I hear you” and then doing it the way the government thinks they should do it, rather than actually allowing the indigenous representation to help truly drive the solution.
I would say, based on my last conversation with Evan Siddall and Romy Bowers, that it seems that there is a genuine interest. They phrased it as, “We'd like to hear how you think things should be done, and then we will support you.” That sounds a little bit different.