Dr. David Gray at the Human Resources, Skills and Social Development and the Status of Persons with Disabilities Committee

I'll talk just about the passive benefits rather than the active benefits.

With the passive benefits, we want to cover the idiosyncratic risk of job loss and certainly the job loss caused by recessions and cyclical unemployment. It's a system that is not too costly because we don't have trillions of dollars to fund it, but it is consistent with a flexible and dynamic, yet equitable, labour market.