Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Thank you to the witnesses.
I'm going to throw out a question to both of you. I agree with both of you that the MBM, which is how we measure products and poverty, has to be looked at.
One question I'd like to ask both of you is this. I agree that the cost of living is out of control, but it's out of control because of the wasteful spending that this current Liberal government has strapped us with—all of the taxpayers. I just spoke to a senior this past weekend who couldn't even afford to put gas in her car. She's 74 years old and got a little part-time job but couldn't pay for the gas. Now it's going up April 1.
Do you agree that we have to control our spending if we expect our seniors to live their retirement life in comfort?