Evidence of meeting #102 for Human Resources, Skills and Social Development and the Status of Persons with Disabilities in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was amendment.
A recording is available from Parliament.
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Liberal
Wayne Long Liberal Saint John—Rothesay, NB
Thank you, Chair.
I'd like to propose a subamendment, please, to Mr. Fragiskatos's amendment.
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Liberal
Wayne Long Liberal Saint John—Rothesay, NB
The subamendment would begin after “Citizens' Services” and would read as follows:
to appear for no fewer than one hour each, in three panels of two, to consider the supplementary estimates (C) for the fiscal year 2023-24 and the main estimates for the fiscal year 2024-25.
Again, instead of “two panels of three”, the subamendment would call for “three panels of two”. There would be three one-hour panels with just two ministers. If the opposition wanted to gain a little more time, we could cut out the opening statements.
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Liberal
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Liberal
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Liberal
Wayne Long Liberal Saint John—Rothesay, NB
After “Citizens' Services”, it would read as follows:
to appear for no fewer than one hour each, in three panels of two, to consider the supplementary estimates (C) for the fiscal year 2023-24 and the main estimates for the fiscal year 2024-25.
Thank you.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Bobby Morrissey
The debate now moves to the subamendment of Mr. Long.
Is there discussion? Going once, twice....
Seeing no further discussion, I'll go to the clerk for a recorded vote on the subamendment of Mr. Long.
(Subamendment negatived: nays 6; yeas 5)
That returns us to the amendment by Mr. Fragiskatos.
Mr. Fragiskatos, go ahead on your amendment.
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Liberal
Peter Fragiskatos Liberal London North Centre, ON
Again, to my colleagues, the concern is that this would take up so many meetings. We'd be devoting—
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Liberal
Peter Fragiskatos Liberal London North Centre, ON
I mean, if Mr. Aitchison is saying that he doesn't want to look at housing matters, I suppose he's now on record saying that, but we can look at that. There might be other colleagues who want to put very worthy issues on the table in order to deal with the broad mandate of this committee.
I think we've proposed something on this side that works as a compromise. This committee could look at various things. If we devote ourselves to this particular motion by Mrs. Gray, then we are putting ourselves in quite the bind, I think, preventing us from looking at all the other matters that this committee can take up. We don't have that many more meetings, in fact.
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Liberal
Peter Fragiskatos Liberal London North Centre, ON
I suppose I could say one more thing: What if we made them one hour each?
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Bobby Morrissey
Now we're on your amendment.
I'll go to Mr. Coteau on the amendment.
February 26th, 2024 / 4:40 p.m.
Liberal
Michael Coteau Liberal Don Valley East, ON
Just for information, considering that we're talking about time as a potential issue, can the clerk explain to us how many studies and how many meetings we have? In March, for example, we're here for one week. What's our timeline? What does our schedule look like from now until June?
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Bobby Morrissey
I have to bring relevancy to the amendment that's currently under discussion. We can do that in committee business.
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Liberal
Michael Coteau Liberal Don Valley East, ON
I won't argue over it, but if one of the issues is that this will take up a lot of our committee time, I just want to see if it actually fits into what we're trying to achieve with our other commitments. That's all. I think that's a fair question.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Bobby Morrissey
Thank you, Mr. Coteau.
I will restrict debate to the amendment by Mr. Fragiskatos.
Mr. Collins, you had your hand up on the amendment.
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Liberal
Chad Collins Liberal Hamilton East—Stoney Creek, ON
I was going to move what Peter suggested earlier, and that is one hour each.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Bobby Morrissey
Okay, so we're clear here, there's been a number on it.
Could you clarify your subamendment?
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Liberal
Chad Collins Liberal Hamilton East—Stoney Creek, ON
I think Peter's suggestion was one hour per individual.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Bobby Morrissey
You have six ministers, which would be one hour for each one. Am I correct in what I'm interpreting?