I'm going to be very blunt here. In 2005, when we were locked out, Telus turned on their first overseas call centre. We have video footage of it. Telus said they were only doing it to give the folks onshore a break, because they'd locked out their employees. However, the truth of the matter is that there are more and more offshore centres.
We are actually in a very precarious position. Since then, there has been no ability to have a proper strike, even if our members want one. This is because, as the sister in the panel before us said, there is no balance. There just isn't. We can only withhold our labour, but if withholding our labour means someone else is going to do it, there is no balance. We have nothing. Worse yet, it's not even done by Canadians.
It is so precarious. It's not feasible. We'll lose our whole industry.